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Post by perspective on Sept 29, 2014 19:07:38 GMT -8
(Damn, with all that video and crap from Joe Anybody over the years, we've got to find some evidence now to support our grand theory!) What "theory" are you talking about? All that's been said is a group invited a Holocaust denier to speak and one person who associates/associated with the group would be shocked to learn it invited a Holocaust Denier. I kinda assumed that's what was meant too. Kraus had said "oh these guys believe crazy stuff but they're ok people" and other people are like "woah no, they're CRAZY and not at all okay!". Proven with this stunt, hence, yeah, he'd be shocked how right most of the forum was. Hell, I'll shocked how right most of the forum was. Why does a group who believes Jews caused the September 11th attacks sit down and have coffee with a Jew? Unless they didn't know?
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Post by meh on Sept 29, 2014 19:52:40 GMT -8
I think everyone's distracted with the conspiracy/nazi/jews did it/how did ed get fooled angle. Understandable, but there's an equally disturbing angle buried in the text: A search for Mary Starrett and Lon Mabon confirms this Constitution Party connection. [extract from RCA website: rosecityantifa.weebly.com/uploads/4/0/5/8/4058617/statement_on_mary_starrett.pdf ] This was brought up in 2006 when Starrett considered a bid for Gov: www.blueoregon.com/2006/05/mary_starrett_f/Thanks to Antifa/ARA related efforts, lots of people know the Portland 911 Conspiracy Alliance is linked to Holocaust denial and anti-semite groups. But how many know the P911TA is a strong supporter of anti-gay politics? There was a dustup over Starrett with the Laughing Horse Book collective in early 2007. It was even covered by our Indymedia friends: portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/354849.shtml?discussOnly two comments bring up Lon Mabon, one by (Lon M, which is obscure without context). One of the tinfoilhatters claims the group is super inclusive, honest: If Jack is right about about the group's demographics then( and isn't lying through his teeth), that would mean gay members were kept in the dark about Starrett and her associations. Wonder what else the group kept in the dark from members. I'm not a fan of Kraus after that stunt in July, but I can be sympathetic to someone manipulated by a group of dishonest sleazoids.
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Post by lurker on Sept 30, 2014 7:27:24 GMT -8
My vote is for 'lying through his teeth", but it's possible he didn't know. What's surprising is the gay rights community hasn't been cued in. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Theresa Mitchell part of this group? How does a gay transsexual who claims to be an investigative journalist not know about a group's association with homophobic politics?
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Post by guest on Sept 30, 2014 8:44:05 GMT -8
Yep. Bollyn? Dirt Bag. 911 Truthers? Dumber than dirt. No problem when you stick to facts.
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Post by partyhard on Sept 30, 2014 17:34:37 GMT -8
Eddie never returned to that convo. 9 months later he ran away. Ed never denied association with the truthers. They logically must be the same people as the Portland 911 Truth Alliance cuz they're the only ones around here. Now who's the ass? Can't wait for the mods to peek at your IP address... hi guise. can't say much right now still cross checking data does look like ass was mfw implying kraus was involved with the bollyn event or something no douchnuts just stupidly socializing with holocaust deniers what could possibly go wrong? [/sarc] thx lurker for that reminder readers don't know this but after the hacking/phishing attempts and fbi tip was being put together to email ed all but BEGGED not to have his details included which we didn't. then. things change when someone proves theyre a dishonest asswipe
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Post by MN on Sept 30, 2014 18:17:49 GMT -8
(Damn, with all that video and crap from Joe Anybody over the years, we've got to find some evidence now to support our grand theory!) What "theory" are you talking about? All that's been said is a group invited a Holocaust denier to speak and one person who associates/associated with the group would be shocked to learn it invited a Holocaust Denier. Your comment makes no sense. Or you are easily amused. Dudes and dudettes, 'yaa/down the rabbit hole' is a TROLL. It's pretending to not understand Op so it can argue a strawman. Notice how it didn't answer your question but did leave a passive aggressive barb instead? This is how Eddie started to comment towards the end of his time here. It's also how most Kbots act: question is asked; they don't answer but make what they think are ironically witty comments about how dumb someone would be to even think (whatever it is). If 'yaa' was being honest, he'd just ask Lulzbot wtf he meant, like a normal person(yes, that's a barb, but an honest one). This slip shows our Troll claims to know more than he should; Ed never said exactly how many times he met these people. But Ed did say he knew all about them, implying a longer than brief association. Ed also never answered any questions in that thread. If I was a betting man, I'd give odds troll is Ed Kraus himself. If correct, Ed only has himself to blame if he feels misunderstood.
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Post by curious on Oct 1, 2014 8:21:28 GMT -8
New comments at Indymedia (the article is still up):
Looks like the Indy guys aren't bothering to make excuses for the Portland Truth alliance anymore.
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Post by I See Loonies on Oct 1, 2014 9:02:40 GMT -8
It's also trying to bury info under nonsense. Didn't work. If the point was to make it sound crazy impossible Ed Kraus was part of the Portland 9/11 Truth Alliance, Ed didn't help by admitting he knew all about them. (And if he knew all about them, how come he didn't know they were basically closet Nazis?) Problem is Ed has been telling half truths one too many times. He's the boy who cried wolf. "you're an ass" does sound a lot like Kraus when he's bitchy. I don't think he's a regular member of the 911 Truth Alliance. But I also think he knows a hell of a lot more about their activities than he's admitting. Interesting. This Ed Kraus? He's not actually hard to find. Theresa Mitchell could manage it. What's he scared of the FBI finding that he doesn't mind the BBB or Mitchell knowing?
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Post by Comrade Red on Oct 1, 2014 9:20:18 GMT -8
The imagination runs wildn! So ... Kraus knows people who are loons. He's used to have to work with them at KBOO, and even was civil and (gasp) drank coffee once or twice with some of them. PROOF POSITIVE! KRAUS is involved with Truth Alliance!!!! Hmmm...first time we heard he worked with the Portland 911 Truth Alliance. Or how many times he had coffee with them. Proof Positive our Obvious Troll knows a hell of a lot more than he should for a random reader. Want a BAN HAMMER to play with?
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Post by lurker on Oct 1, 2014 12:01:55 GMT -8
Banned by IP I hope. Then he comes back. Sees a blank screen. Has to get someone else to look or cycle his IP. LOL
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Post by lurker on Oct 1, 2014 12:08:31 GMT -8
Forgot the new comment from our Frenemies at Indy:
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The Real Actual Ed Kraus
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Post by The Real Actual Ed Kraus on Oct 22, 2014 16:27:01 GMT -8
OMG. For real guys and gals.
The only reason I checked back here a few weeks ago was that I recognized the writing style of one of you on Indymedia. The strange reference there to me and Hadrian as somehow involved in a grand scheme ... that made me wonder what you're up to here. Yes, I monitor Indymedia to be up on what the latest whack job hate speech is. BTW, thanks for appreciating some of my posts there.
BanHammer? For real? If you don't want your blog on boards.net to be read, don't have it. The only way to go totally private is to simply email each other and then only the NSA and Google will keep track of what you write. I've never lost access even though I deleted my account.
I have to say I was partly amused, and partly horrified by the postings here after I removed my name as a formal user of this blog. Don't you all know that one or more of your admins has an email address for me? How do you think I forwarded files for the good old yellow blog? Get real, no one is or has been hiding anywhere. I'm not sure to be amused or horrified someone thinks it's detective work to find the address for my business. If anything was so damned important you could have asked emailed me a question. It's really that simple, no one has gone anywhere and everything is out in the open.
I'd discuss the futility of some of the reasoning I've been reading here about the 911 truthers and some imaginary connection to me. But that would only encourage the creation of more strangeness from whole cloth.
BTW, regarding the FBI. At one sad point in not distant Portland history the FBI called an emergency meeting of Jewish leaders, then distributed to each synagogue in town a detailed bio, auto description, photo, etc. of a whack job who was moving here from California. This person had repeatedly posted anti-Semitic threats in a video on his website while dry firing a semi-automatic pistol and had been under watch for years in CA. For weeks we had to post someone at the door of every Sabbath service with a cell phone ready to dial 911 in an instant. That's what the reference to being at a meeting was about, not some strange connection to KBOO. When the FBI goes out of their way to warn you they think you're in danger, they're doing their job.
Please stop making shit up and reading weirdness into everything that gets posted. If you have a question, ask. I'd even drink coffee with you, maybe ...
Ed Kraus
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Post by lurker on Oct 31, 2014 10:49:50 GMT -8
OMG. For real guys and gals. The only reason I checked back here a few weeks ago was that I recognized the writing style of one of you on Indymedia. The strange reference there to me and Hadrian as somehow involved in a grand scheme ... that made me wonder what you're up to here. Yes, I monitor Indymedia to be up on what the latest whack job hate speech is. BTW, thanks for appreciating some of my posts there. BanHammer? For real? If you don't want your blog on boards.net to be read, don't have it. The only way to go totally private is to simply email each other and then only the NSA and Google will keep track of what you write. I've never lost access even though I deleted my account. I have to say I was partly amused, and partly horrified by the postings here after I removed my name as a formal user of this blog. Don't you all know that one or more of your admins has an email address for me? How do you think I forwarded files for the good old yellow blog? Get real, no one is or has been hiding anywhere. I'm not sure to be amused or horrified someone thinks it's detective work to find the address for my business. If anything was so damned important you could have asked emailed me a question. It's really that simple, no one has gone anywhere and everything is out in the open. I'd discuss the futility of some of the reasoning I've been reading here about the 911 truthers and some imaginary connection to me. But that would only encourage the creation of more strangeness from whole cloth. BTW, regarding the FBI. At one sad point in not distant Portland history the FBI called an emergency meeting of Jewish leaders, then distributed to each synagogue in town a detailed bio, auto description, photo, etc. of a whack job who was moving here from California. This person had repeatedly posted anti-Semitic threats in a video on his website while dry firing a semi-automatic pistol and had been under watch for years in CA. For weeks we had to post someone at the door of every Sabbath service with a cell phone ready to dial 911 in an instant. That's what the reference to being at a meeting was about, not some strange connection to KBOO. When the FBI goes out of their way to warn you they think you're in danger, they're doing their job. Please stop making shit up and reading weirdness into everything that gets posted. If you have a question, ask. I'd even drink coffee with you, maybe ... Ed Kraus blah blah blah butthurt GTFO
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Post by Comrade Red on Aug 1, 2015 14:40:09 GMT -8
I got an email this dead horse was still twitching. I can confirm what PH said, Kraus strongly implied taking to the Feds after Tommy's phishing incident could have unforeseen consequences. Thus we are mystified at his 180 on the FBI issue:
He's also picked up the Kbot habit of imagining he can read minds or deduce posters identity from "writing style". Never a good sign.
But it's all water under the sewer. We've pretty much moved on. We only check the forum to make sure creepos don't try to use it.
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Post by lurker on Sept 24, 2015 16:45:41 GMT -8
BUMP for our buddie Eddie.
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