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Post by Admin on Sept 4, 2013 15:36:02 GMT -8
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Post by partyhard on Sept 6, 2013 0:10:48 GMT -8
more in on adin
interwebs posts with matching phone numbers
[online and public..bruce silverman will be proud]
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Post by partyhard on Sept 6, 2013 0:14:01 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 7:05:48 GMT -8
"Recently appointed board member rumored to be given a more recent fast track access to the MONEY. How fast? So fast Accountempts is bailing:" Folks, it's important not to read things into other posts that aren't there. The temp complained about Adin's actions to the home office, the home office talked with Lynn (even though on leave), and some sort of arrangement was made for the temp to continue at KBOO till another temp (implying from Accountemps) is found. As of a week ago Accountemps was still trying to work with KBOO. Also, while Adin was given unusual direct access to the corporation's financial office and files, he was not given the corporate checkbook. It's reasonable for the corporate treasurer to have access to information, just a serious change of procedures without any advance warning to the employees responsibile for doing their jobs according to established procedures.But this move by the board to simply vote at a meeting and next day implement new procedures on surprised staff is really what it's all about. The board is now the manager. The staff failed at being a manager, and now the board gets it's turn to work with crap procedures after tossing the multiyear attempt to create better manuals and procedures. I'm sure the board will fail too. More disturbing is that Bruce made keys for a secure office and handed them to Adin the day after he fell on his sword to protect Ani and Theresa from the fallout of improperly using the volunteer list for phone banking of prefered candidates. In the absence of anyone with authority from whom to ask permission, Bruce made keys when board members told him to. Bruce isn't even an employee, he's a long time volunteer who no longer has an official position at KBOO. Even if eventually the treasurer would have shown it was proper to have keys and computer passwords, how is Bruce accountable to the corporation? Is he bonded? Are his actions covered by any insurance? The real problem here isn't that Adin has keys and access to information, the problem is that there no longer are any checks and balances. That's how eventually someone could figure out how to game the system and either alter the books to cover their ass, or embezzle. No one is saying that Adin has or will do any of this, but his brash actions show how dangerously close KBOO is to total anarchy. Added: You know folks, I'm not quite done here. The actions of the board since getting rid of Lynn are deeply troubling. They are the actions of an activist board for a for-profit corporation. In the for profit world the owners of the corporation can have any damned procedures they want, can spend the money on anything they want, and act any way they please so long as they follow employment rules, don't harass anyone, and do tax returns properly. A for profit can spend money and do internal procedures any way it likes. In contrast rules and expectations for a non-profit are different, and things have to happen more deliberately and slowly to ensure that all decisions and expenditures are above board and proper. Ironically, to get rid of "top-down corporate management" I think the inner party has made KBOO now just like a poorly run, for profit capitalist venture. |
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Post by partyhard on Sept 6, 2013 7:58:09 GMT -8
thx for making accountemps role clearer i think we're all basically in agreement >>> rumored to be given a more recent fast track access to the MONEY our concern was how fast this happened and he's not even a kboo member (that anyone can tell) and everything you said about how he was given access and now...who the fuck is this guy? its like he came out of nowhere con man? >>>the home office talked with Lynn (even though on leave) OMG WHAT DID WELP SAY!! oh welp  |
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Post by redtail on Sept 6, 2013 9:20:36 GMT -8
This happens a lot in radical circles. Some people get it right. Most don't. I don't think anyone in charge at KBOO ever understood radical or anarchist doesn't mean no structure. It means a constantly self correcting structure, kinda like how you walk. Always adapting and responding to new information with the goal in mind.
Instead people interpreted anarchist as free for all. With no rules the strongest/longest invested personalities dominate. Their agenda replaces the goal: keeping staff jobs unchanged at all costs replaces serving the community. Voting becomes a sop to donors, a show to prove there's democracy.
Sound familiar?
These people should just drop their non profit status, embrace the reality they want to be a private club. Then this torture would be over.
They're not corporatatists. They're worse. They're feudalists. They just won't admit it.
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Post by Admin on Sept 6, 2013 21:56:34 GMT -8
"Recently appointed board member rumored to be given a more recent fast track access to the MONEY. How fast? So fast Accountempts is bailing:" Folks, it's important not to read things into other posts that aren't there. The temp complained about Adin's actions to the home office, the home office talked with Lynn (even though on leave), and some sort of arrangement was made for the temp to continue at KBOO till another temp (implying from Accountemps) is found. As of a week ago Accountemps was still trying to work with KBOO. Also, while Adin was given unusual direct access to the corporation's financial office and files, he was not given the corporate checkbook. It's reasonable for the corporate treasurer to have access to information, just a serious change of procedures without any advance warning to the employees responsibile for doing their jobs according to established procedures.You're right. Saying bailing is an overstatement. Guess Meresa was coming through there.(You people really want her back? Really? Think about this. For God's sake, have pity on our sanity.  ) Otherwise, like Party said, we're basically in agreement. Our concern is also who he is. Do we know if he's a KBOO member? |
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Post by Taxman on Sept 7, 2013 5:14:25 GMT -8
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Who is Adin/Alan/Jorgan
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Post by Who is Adin/Alan/Jorgan on Sept 14, 2013 16:58:10 GMT -8
From: "jorgan erasmus" <adin@trimtab.net>
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Post by Adin Watch on Sept 15, 2013 6:54:20 GMT -8
Adin Rogovin, Treasurer <adin@trimtab.net> Email Adin and you get a message that you need to do 5 handstands and a genuflect before he allows you through this spam protection. But look who is the spammer now: Spammer IP address: 77.48.138.208 Sample spam: From: "jorgan erasmus" <adin@trimtab.net> Subject: Your supplier of successful lovemaking. See more: www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_77.48.138.208 |
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Post by Admin on Sept 15, 2013 7:14:01 GMT -8
Adin Rogovin, Treasurer <adin@trimtab.net> Email Adin and you get a message that you need to do 5 handstands and a genuflect before he allows you through this spam protection. But look who is the spammer now: Spammer IP address: 77.48.138.208 Sample spam: From: "jorgan erasmus" <adin@trimtab.net> Subject: Your supplier of successful lovemaking. See more: www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_77.48.138.208Good find. Did a quick search on "jorgan erasmus" and seems to be connected to a couple more accounts all flagged on project honeypot: "jorgan erasmus" <hilton@jetblue.com> "jorgan erasmus" <-gened@aacompanies.com> Are all these aliases "Adin"? Or is Jorgan someone Adin knows who has access to multiple accounts? If he was spoofing it would be strange to deliberately alter the name, so I assume Jorgan" has legitimate access. And smells like another phishing trip. Most people aren't going to bother. Notice we don't have the whois for trimtab.net. Let's fix that: Fun little fact: the indy troll who exposed their hand on the Indymedia Deletes OFS thread? Their IP was in Eugene. |
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) Otherwise, like Party said, we're basically in agreement.