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Post by Here we go again on Oct 3, 2013 9:26:14 GMT -8
We could spend weeks in the morass of who said what when why how and not be any closer to the goal of better community media in Portland. To the Admins and others here who regard certain people as allies : The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. The goal of better community media will be achievable only with the help of people whose priority is the community, not their own petty self-serving agenda.And also THIS.
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Post by Admin on Oct 3, 2013 12:02:50 GMT -8
Hadrian, you're coming unglued. Pol Pot? Trying to get OFS to "unfriend me"? We're not sure who in particular Hadrian was talking about. We are less influenced by "rants" than by evidence. It's understandable if someone has a rant based on unpleasant facts. OTOH a rant without facts is a waste of time. But occasionally worth the lulz.
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Post by Admin on Oct 3, 2013 12:48:58 GMT -8
Long story short: He done fucked up. off topic but of concern re media in town the tribune done fucked up too since they want to be cozy with the kbot kult we're gonna see how bad it is stay tuned Still can't find those pics. Started the thread anyway: operationfreespeech.boards.net/thread/229/portland-tribune-accepts-advertizing-scientology
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Post by Hadrian Micciche on Oct 3, 2013 13:59:41 GMT -8
... I'm glad John went to the FCC. It's about time KBOO acted like a radio station. I can't believe I was left in charge with such crappy training. I understand your frustration. However, John didn't go to the FCC to complain about the poor training you got from another volunteer way back when -- training so essential that John should have provided it, but did not. In fact, as far as I know, John didn't go to the FCC at all. A "listener" who was concerned about the EAS equipment did. All John did was: 1. Gain unauthorized access to KBOO after hours. 2. Gained unauthorized access to KBOO equipment, which some feared he may have sabotaged. 3. Publicly called the efforts of KBOO volunteers who attempted to stop his unauthorized use of KBOO equipment, "Gestapo tactics." (According to Godwin's Law, John has already lost this argument, but lets proceed). 4. Responded to a professional and courteous inquiry from the Executive Director about his actions with a communication (now in the hands of this board's admins) called "insulting, intimidating, misinformed and unprofessional". 5. Failed to immediately inform the Station Engineer and Executive Director about the deficiencies he found with the EAS equipment. 6. As John puts it, lives were at risk and he would be personally legal liable if he did nothing. So, for a full week, he did -- nothing. 7. Waited until Oct. 21st to inform the Executive Director and the board about the problems he found on the 14th. 8. Failed to ask the Board President or Executive Director, or anyone really, about what steps had been taken to deal with the EAS issue after he first informed us about it. Had he done so, he would have learned that a fix had already been put in process. 9. Indicated he would provide the EAS print-out to the Board for discussion in a closed session in November. 10. Asked for a closed session at the October Board meeting to discuss the personnel records of former staff and prospective board member Rabia Yeaman. 11. As an encore, needlessly did what he twice before said should not be done, and brought up the EAS problem in open session.None of which helps improve the kind of training he should have provided as station engineer back in the day, but apparently did not.You seem to think John was trying to help KBOO by doing what he did. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He only had the best of intentions, but handled the situation so ineptly as to put the station license at risk. Now he lies about what he did, when, and why, because...
You find merit in John's "help." You are welcome to have all of of this kind of help you like. I say no thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2013 14:39:01 GMT -8
Re 1. and 2. Standard KBOO Operating Procedure. All fucked up. Not that it's right. Re sabotage, that reminds me of the hysteria re the transmitter when he was fired. All documented on pdxradio.com and I remember reading the panicked notes re John that were either via email or posted in the air room.
Regarding notes to ED and time delays ... always interesting to get more of the story rather than drips and drabs. I've already heard from others about how other staff conspired to get him fired. In the AFU reality that is KBOO, that it would not have been procedurally correct in every way doesn't surprise me, nor that he might hesitate and not be sure who to trust and what process to follow. Should John have taken this to Conch, and trusted Conch to follow up when Conch had gone to the attorney with John's past employee files, asking the attorney if there was a way to keep John off the BOD? So that it was not perfect process makes perfect sense.
Re 10. I'm aware of multiple personal conflicts. Personal conflict is the name of every game at KBOO.
I don't know if John or a "listener" called.
If John's participation brings more information to this board then I say good.
My story was an aside just for the general amusement of how badly run KBOO is.
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Post by But... on Oct 4, 2013 17:11:49 GMT -8
If John's participation brings more information to this board then I say good. But if he's "loose" with facts, his information is unreliable, therefore useless.
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Post by LulzBot on Oct 6, 2013 7:44:24 GMT -8
Just rattling your cage here. Be nice if you still had something archived. ;) it'd be great if we got something before dying of old age. Rough crowd. Sorry took so long. Had to access an old account and ask around. This was forwarded by a buddy who got on a foil hat yahoo list. It's called pdx911truth. They had regular meetings from 2006 to at least 2008. Owen managed the meetings. In 2006 Mitchell was rumored to help them put on this foil hat event at Cinemagic: portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/08/345282.shtml Per fagereng showed up: pressfortruth.bravenewtheaters.com/screening/show/5590-portlandIn this email they're organizing: near the end notes from 2005 are added where they plan to work with TM. Note the list is virtually the same at indymedia, minus Theresa and minor changes: portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/320662.shtmlPeople will say that's in 2005, but Mitchell was involved with this group of people under a different name into 2007, 2008: Mitchell was considered real media lol: These people are way out of touch with reality. At least the one I'm familiar with. The point is Mitchell's association goes back to 2005 and includes Glen Owen. The foil hat community isn't large. Attempts to suggest they barely know each other is laughable even without mutual personal contacts.
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Post by Comrade Red on Oct 7, 2013 8:43:53 GMT -8
Hey, I asked nicely! And thanks! Good point about the community size. Going by Antifa's observations, and these meeting minutes, we're not talking about many people. Forty , fifty? There's a video online somewhere of a march they had. Then you have to assume some of those people didn't know the group had Holocaust deniers etc, and were along for the ride. So actually less.
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Post by John Mackey on Dec 11, 2018 21:14:07 GMT -8
OK, why was Mackey's personnel file being reviewed by the board? What had he done other than perform board business and radio engineer business? It seems he was a highly appreciated board member and experienced radio engineer. Something stinks like fish. Hadrian seems to hang his hat on the open meeting / closed meeting re: EAS as the reason. I say Bull Shit. Hadrian, what are you hiding too? Maybe it stinks of Bull Shit more than fish. I was not at the meeting where Conch brought John's personnel file to the board. Ask Conch why he did it. What did I do when I learned about Conch doing so? I worked to get him removed from the board. What did John do when he learned about file-gate? He called for a tit-for-tat review of the files of another staff person joining the board.
John called for petty and inconsequential tit-for-tat retaliation. I called for Conch to be held accountable.
I was removed from the board for whistleblowing about the public actions of the board, and for being a major source for the very public Willamette Weekly story about KBOO. John was removed from the board for making confidential information public -- something he himself said more than once should not be done.
I'm calling bull-shit on John's false-equivalence attempt to say that my removal from the board was at all like his removal from the board. I was removed from the board for trying to hold the board accountable. John is all butt-hurt by my acting to hold him accountable, then and now. He's likely going to be unhappy at my providing proof that he is lying about why he made the EAS information public. I can live with that. I'm disliked by most of the KBOO staff due to my efforts over the past 2+ years to have the board hold the staff accountable.
See a pattern here? I just don't care if the KBOO crowd likes me or not. I was on the board to do a job, not be part of a radio club.
So, in response to the the documented facts about John's wrong-doing and his lies about it, an anonymous person asks, with unintentional irony, what is Hadrian hiding? Just my awesomeness Mr. Unknown. Except for my profound inability to create a good analogy , its an awesomeness that is like an awesome something, maybe a rainbow or a puppy.
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Post by John Mackey on Jan 8, 2019 3:12:22 GMT -8
I decided to revisit this discussion 5 years after the last comment. Look for my next comment five years from now.
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Post by lurker on Jun 11, 2019 8:37:34 GMT -8
"So, in response to the the documented facts about John's wrong-doing and his lies about it, an anonymous person asks, with unintentional irony, what is Hadrian hiding? Just my awesomeness Mr. Unknown."
TL;DR Hadrian figured out how to circumvent an IP ban. Probably asked Eddie for help, though I hear Eddie started running out of workplaces/internet cafes to bounce through lol.
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Post by KBOOkabob on Aug 25, 2019 18:43:10 GMT -8
"So, in response to the the documented facts about John's wrong-doing and his lies about it, an anonymous person asks, with unintentional irony, what is Hadrian hiding? Just my awesomeness Mr. Unknown." TL;DR Hadrian figured out how to circumvent an IP ban. Probably asked Eddie for help, though I hear Eddie started running out of workplaces/internet cafes to bounce through lol. That comment was posted on Oct 1, 2013. When did the ban hammer fall?
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Post by KBOOkabob on Aug 25, 2019 18:45:44 GMT -8
"So, in response to the the documented facts about John's wrong-doing and his lies about it, an anonymous person asks, with unintentional irony, what is Hadrian hiding? Just my awesomeness Mr. Unknown." TL;DR Hadrian figured out how to circumvent an IP ban. Probably asked Eddie for help, though I hear Eddie started running out of workplaces/internet cafes to bounce through lol. That comment was posted on Oct 1, 2013. When did the ban hammer fall? Oh wait. I see. He came back in 2018 to make a follow up comment. Oh dear.
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Post by KBOOkabob on Aug 25, 2019 18:51:57 GMT -8
That comment was posted on Oct 1, 2013. When did the ban hammer fall? Oh wait. I see. He came back in 2018 to make a follow up comment. Oh dear. Oh wait again. That comment IS from 2013 and "John McKay" did a copypasta 5 years later. Somebody is screwed up in the head.
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