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Post by Oh HAI on Sept 18, 2013 12:57:02 GMT -8
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Post by lurker on Sept 19, 2013 12:06:08 GMT -8
[quoteBy selling used books, comics, vinyl LPs, CDs, DVDs, VHS, and the occasional board game, KBOO expects to raise more than $3,000 during this event.[/quote]
Wow. Three grand. I mean wow.
Kay, that's great, something to raise office supply money, but she's doesn't think this is a serious fund-raiser, does she?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 12:19:43 GMT -8
Some more story ... they aren't telling you that they don't have enough volunteers, so KBOO is paying a flat fee stipend to someone to run the sale. Why doesn't Ani do this herself?
Reminds me of the outrage about the missing winter drive. The last time KBOO did this they didn't have enough volunteer help and were begging for shifts to be covered nearly every day. KBOO staff ended up on mic almost all day long. And they didn't raise much more per year than with two drives, so the decision was to dump the third drive.
Of course, when it was dropped and it was announced that revenues were $100K below expenses TM (Ani proxy) then used this fake emergency to blame the lack of a third drive on Lynn. But what the robots weren't told was that three drives didn't bring in enough additional revenue to be helpful, and that being $100K short was a CHRONIC problem not a unique thing caused by Lynn Fitch.
And the ridicule flowed regarding the Flash Drive. Funny how quiet TM is today about what an outstanding job this was, even while the station was in turmoil. It brought what, about 95% of projected revenue?
Sure, do the book and record sale. Clog the hallways. Be sure not to disclose how much it is costing to put this on.
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Post by johnmackey on Sept 19, 2013 12:29:18 GMT -8
I wonder what will be different this time? In staff meetings Ani always used to complain that it was questionable if it was worth it to do the Book & Record Sale because KBOO often only made $800 to $1800 - she felt the same resources could be put to better use for higher revenue. |
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Post by johnmackey on Sept 19, 2013 12:33:16 GMT -8
Some more story ... they aren't telling you that they don't have enough volunteers, so KBOO is paying a flat fee stipend to someone to run the sale. Why doesn't Ani do this herself? SNIP Sure, do the book and record sale. Clog the hallways. Be sure not to disclose how much it is costing to put this on. For the last few years Ani has been using someone else to run the sale rather than do it herself. In about 2009 she started saying we made such little money that the sale was no longer worth doing. |
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Post by KBooWasGoodOnce on Sept 19, 2013 12:38:16 GMT -8
It seems to me $3,000 is not chump change. That is enough for a used car. Just do that 32 more times, and the annual deficit is covered. Then do it again next year....
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Post by lulz on Sept 19, 2013 12:39:40 GMT -8
I missed that it was that much. It was a lot. I remember thinking "how can they do that and still have money problems?".
That's projected revenue for this year? Do you think the flash drive was a way for silent partners to funnel KBOO money?
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Post by Blerp! on Sept 19, 2013 12:44:09 GMT -8
Some more story ... they aren't telling you that they don't have enough volunteers, so KBOO is paying a flat fee stipend to someone to run the sale. Why doesn't Ani do this herself? SNIP Sure, do the book and record sale. Clog the hallways. Be sure not to disclose how much it is costing to put this on. For the last few years Ani has been using someone else to run the sale rather than do it herself. In about 2009 she started saying we made such little money that the sale was no longer worth doing. LOL. Glorious Leader, September 16th: "Everyone knows there’s a lot of work to be done, and people are already pitching in in a big way, notably Adin with financial work, and the Development Committee, which has already organized the Return of the KBOO Book and Record Sale!" Funny that Ani didn't think that the book and record sale made any money, but that doesn't keep TM from citing the resumption of the "KBOO Book and Record Sale!" as evidence of the financial renaissance already occurring under the tutelage of the Inner Party, Comrades! |
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Post by lulz on Sept 19, 2013 12:47:18 GMT -8
It seems to me $3,000 is not chump change. That is enough for a used car. Just do that 32 more times, and the annual deficit is covered. Then do it again next year.... Maybe if someone else was organizing... That's another thing: in theory a used book sale should kick ass in this town. Well organized and advertised there's no reason they could bring in 5k to 10k. They have this every fricking year. It's not a surprise. They know when they're having it. But people need to know. I didn't. I think I might have gone to one years ago, and that was because I stumbled across it walking around. Or was that the library book sale? Never mind. Think I might go to see how it's operating and what they're charging. |
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Post by lurker on Sept 19, 2013 12:50:27 GMT -8
They're funny, aren't they? They create their own reality...like "republican torpedoes".
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Post by wat on Sept 19, 2013 13:05:55 GMT -8
I wonder what will be different this time? In staff meetings Ani always used to complain that it was questionable if it was worth it to do the Book & Record Sale because KBOO often only made $800 to $1800 - she felt the same resources could be put to better use for higher revenue. So when Ani says it's not an efficient fund-raiser, that's fine. But when Lynn said the same thing(or similar) about the Winter Drive, Lynn needed to be witchhunted out of town. Clearly this means Ani is at fault for KBOO money problems because she just wasn't trying had enough years back to make the book sale a success. |
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Post by johnmackey on Sept 19, 2013 13:14:03 GMT -8
It seems to me $3,000 is not chump change. That is enough for a used car. Just do that 32 more times, and the annual deficit is covered. Then do it again next year.... There is important information missing! Ani hires someone to do it because it takes to much of her time. Then they have to rent trucks to move all the merchandise. Then they have to rent a facility to hold the actual book/record sale at. Then they have to rent storage units to hold all the books/records until the sale day. They usually make $2500-$3500, and then after all the previously mentioned costs are covered they have about $600-$1200 left over. Of course, they have good years and bad years - I remember one year they pulled in $4500 before paying all expenses. But regardless, the actual final income is very modest. Of course, if you are trying to pump up everyone to look like you are doing a bunch of good & cool stuff this would be the thing to be showing to everyone. It will be interesting to see if they publish how much actual profit was made at the end. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 13:14:38 GMT -8
I know! After the book and record sale, let's have a BAKE sale! We can feature Lisa's burnt cookies! Special Brownies for ALL!
That'll bring in the revenue!
But seriously, KBOO is losing about 500 members a year. Average membership donations were what, about $75 or a bit more a year? That means that every year revenues drop another $38K. Member dues are the largest part of KBOO's revenues. But no problem, we'll fiddle round the edges of the revenue problem while Rome burns!
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Post by johnmackey on Sept 19, 2013 13:46:58 GMT -8
But seriously, KBOO is losing about 500 members a year. Average membership donations were what, about $75 or a bit more a year? That means that every year revenues drop another $38K. Member dues are the largest part of KBOO's revenues. But no problem, we'll fiddle round the edges of the revenue problem while Rome burns! There was a group that I used to work with called PRETC, there were several years when they gave KBOO donations in the $5000 range. Other years they would give KBOO grants for things like staff training, board training, and purchasing field interview equipment. PRETC stopped doing that about 3-4 years ago. I knew people on their board of directors who told me that they stopped giving money to KBOO because there were so many problems with KBOO and KBOO was not walking their talk. About the time Arthur Davis left is when they stopped giving money to KBOO. It is to bad that KBOO let $15,000-$20,000 slip away because they wouldn't sell their tax rebate coupon that they received from the state of Oregon when they bought the new transmitter in 2005. |
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Post by Well on Sept 19, 2013 13:53:29 GMT -8
There is important information missing! Ani hires someone to do it because it takes to much of her time. Then they have to rent trucks to move all the merchandise. Then they have to rent a facility to hold the actual book/record sale at. Then they have to rent storage units to hold all the books/records until the sale day. They usually make $2500-$3500, and then after all the previously mentioned costs are covered they have about $600-$1200 left over. Of course, they have good years and bad years - I remember one year they pulled in $4500 before paying all expenses. But regardless, the actual final income is very modest. Of course, if you are trying to pump up everyone to look like you are doing a bunch of good & cool stuff this would be the thing to be showing to everyone. It will be interesting to see if they publish how much actual profit was made at the end. So when Ani says they hope to make $3,000, she means net? I hope? Info from a previous sale...don't know what year because the webchimps at kboo.fm haven't figured out how to put dates on blogs(the site's still down. this is from cache): It was earlier that year. Does the time always vary? Or is this more evidence this was resurrected at the last minute for "bread and circuses"? |
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